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Old 02-10-2009, 12:28   #11 (permalink)
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Bring back capital punishment for certain.

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Oh.. yes.. bring back capital punishment definitely!
Either or both of you care to say why this is a solution and to what?
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Old 02-10-2009, 16:44   #12 (permalink)
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Why are underage kids allowed to be out in the evening after 7 pm?... Cos parents can't be bothered.

Building more prisons is not the answer in my opinion. From what you see.. prisons seem to be cushy. What happened to "rigorous imprisonment"? .. hard labour!! by any other name.

There is no stigma attached to kids being hauled before the courts.. or being arrested by the police.. In the old days.. families would die of shame if this happened to one of their own.

Things have changed at a very fast pace in the last 20-40 years. Too many do-gooders, human rights acrivists without a clear vision. ,, etc.

Oh.. yes.. bring back capital punishment definitely!

one despairs...
So what age is underage then?

I remember being allowed out to play with my schoolmates till my bedtime which varied as I got older, but at age 11/12 onwards, I was certainly out until 9pm, gosh does this mean I am a vandal?

We as a society have taken away authority and ability to punish those who need bringing in line and until that balance is restored, respect is a thing of the past. However, capital punishment is NOT the answer to it all - its got to the stage now whereby the introduction of it would merely add fuel to the fire.
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To true they should bring back capital punishment then if that don't work they could try corporal punishment.


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Old 03-10-2009, 05:11   #14 (permalink)
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Either or both of you care to say why this is a solution and to what?
From a personal pov..

people found guilty of premeditated murder.. drug trafficking.... given lengthy sentences.. 20/30/ years etc.

I don't see the point in incarcerating anyone for that length of time. .what purpose does that serve?..apart from being a burden on the State. . capital punsihment would seem be the answer.

I would hope that this would serve as a deterrent to those contemplating similar misdeeds.

IMHO.

Seems to be working in Singapore, as far as I know.
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So what age is underage then?

I remember being allowed out to play with my schoolmates till my bedtime which varied as I got older, but at age 11/12 onwards, I was certainly out until 9pm, gosh does this mean I am a vandal?

We as a society have taken away authority and ability to punish those who need bringing in line and until that balance is restored, respect is a thing of the past. However, capital punishment is NOT the answer to it all - its got to the stage now whereby the introduction of it would merely add fuel to the fire.
LOL.. only you would know whether you are a vandal

I don't understand. What "fire" would that be?

All I am saying really is that if there was a vote in respect of Capital punishment.. I would vote "yes".

I know that ppl would cite miscarriages of justice etc.. but if all those avenues of appeal have failed?
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Me a vandal, she asked in a shocked voice?? I was always the goody two shoes at school!!

Fuel to the fire? Well in these days of awareness, the youth of today (oh how I hate that phrase but can't help myself and have to use it!) know full well how far they can push the system and have such knowledge that they play it beautifully.

I honestly don't think that to kill someone would seriously deter a lot of them, as they all think they are too smart etc, and do you really think the mamby pamby set would seriously let it happen without a hell of a lot of noise??

The Gov would spend millions having a study done on the effects which would take 5 years, then they would have to debate it for another 4 years, then a referendum, that the loosing side would say was fixed? Ner aint going to happen in a million years!
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The Gov would spend millions having a study done on the effects which would take 5 years, then they would have to debate it for another 4 years, then a referendum, that the loosing side would say was fixed? Ner aint going to happen in a million years!
I think that bit is highly unlikely!
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Its about as likely as capital punishment making a return!!
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I would hope that this would serve as a deterrent to those contemplating similar misdeeds.

IMHO.

Seems to be working in Singapore, as far as I know.
Well one thing we know for certain is that capital punishment does not deter. There's stacks of evidence to show it.

The vast majority of murders are not pre-planned; they're spur of the moment crazyness almost all inside families.

Those few murderers that do pre-plan are obviously not deterred by capital punishment because they do not expect to be caught.

I have no data on Singapore. I do know from experience that Singaporian society is very nailed down with draconian punishments for trivial offences such as littering. I'm not sure what this proves.
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Well one thing we know for certain is that capital punishment does not deter. There's stacks of evidence to show it.

The vast majority of murders are not pre-planned; they're spur of the moment crazyness almost all inside families.

Those few murderers that do pre-plan are obviously not deterred by capital punishment because they do not expect to be caught.

I have no data on Singapore. I do know from experience that Singaporian society is very nailed down with draconian punishments for trivial offences such as littering. I'm not sure what this proves.
We don't know for certain that capital punishment does not deter.

Obviously nobody "expects to be caught".. thats why they do it.. and know that if they do.. the punishment will be acceptable.
But.. suppose they knew that if they did get caught.. they were gonna be hanged etc.. .. would they still go ahead? ..
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Singapore.. draconian punishments for litter etc!!.. It is a very clean city.. proves that if there are the right kind of punishments .. then people take notice... and pride in their environment..

Not many ppl blatantly doing drugs.. they get caught.. its high jump time!.. no reprieve.

I still believe in capital punishment.. I do know thats not gonna be reinstated... not in my lifetime at least.
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